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antenna9071
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: Far field region Reply with quote

Me and my friend had some discussion about the distance for far field region for patch antennas.

One formula that is used for far field region is R>2D^2/lambda and by balanis D>lambda,

But for many patch antennas d<lambda, if I understand what means with D.

Which formula are used for far field region for example patch antennas there d<lambda?

/Thomas


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:14 pm    Post subject: Far Field Regions Reply with quote

See equations 1,2,3 here:
http://www.antenna-theory.com/basics/fieldRegions.php

You need all 3 to be satisfied to be in the far-field (plane wave propagation). No one equation is sufficient.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Far Field Regions Reply with quote

My question was: Which formula are used for far field region for example patch antennas there d>lambda?

If the conditions is not satisfied. Have the antenna no far field then?


Schubert wrote:
See equations 1,2,3 here:
http://www.antenna-theory.com/basics/fieldRegions.php

You need all 3 to be satisfied to be in the far-field (plane wave propagation). No one equation is sufficient.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All 3 conditions need satisfied, always.

There is always a far field.

You didn't put much thought into that post.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know there always is a far field but balanis says that the formula 2D^2/lamda can be used if D>lambda but in my case D<lambda so I cant use this formula so my question is: Which formula should I use or have I missunderstanding something? Have balanis wrong?

Schubert wrote:
All 3 conditions need satisfied, always.

There is always a far field.

You didn't put much thought into that post.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just figure out which R is the largest for the 3 equations:

R >> lambda ( this means R > 10*lambda )
R > 2*D*D/lambda
R >> D (or R > 10*D)

Whichever equation gives you the largest value for R, that equation will dictate the far field region.

I'm not sure what Balanis is talking about, but for sure all 3 equations need to be true.
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